Poser Content ... Damn, how much do we need ?
If you're like most Poser users that really catch the bug, you're running around downloading every free item that you come across.
Not only that, you frequent all the stores. It's worse than mall fever....hit DAZ, RDNA, Renderosity, Poser Pros, Content Paradise, 3D Commune, Vanishing Point and a hundred other sorta independent merchants...oh yeah...PoserProducts, Sixus 1, .... anyway, you get the point.
How much cash are we spending on this stuff? Poser comes with its standard content, for whatever reason, is hardly supported. You have to go out and buy Mike, Vicky, and the other anime and toon characters...then you have to buy clothes for them. Its worse than dressing Barbie and Ken. These guys have more damn clothes than I've purchased for myself in 40 years, and they cost about the same.
The part that is strange, unless you're a production house with time constraints, a lot of us are hobbyists or wannabees. We started out getting Poser and maybe a 3D modeling app, and a paint program ...with the intent of learning 3D graphics, some modeling, do our own textures, and create images.
All of a sudden, we're caught up in Poser content fever ... buy buy buy....our credits cards are full. We join DAZ and their Platinum Club to get discounts, and some real inexpensive content....oh yes..the almighty $5 voucher every month. Its worse than cutting out the coupons in the Sunday paper.
I've got so much stuff on my hard drive, that 90% of it has never been extracted from its zip folder. Gigs and gigs of Poser runtimes....yes.. RUNTIMES..plural...
What to do with it all ? Well, you do need diversity.... but gigs worth of diversity??
So what do you think?
Is it all necessary?
I will say its a fun hobby, in my case, but an expensive one.
posted by David Soumis at 5:31 PM
12 Comments:
Buying addons and downloading freebies is an addiction.At some point the vision of the artist is lost or traded with the idea that I must have everything in case I make a render. Poser is a hook into hyper-consumerism. The models are so out of date or so incomplete the very nature of Poser makes the user want to buy more. Than the addiction begins.
I think yes. I recognize sometimes I find on a lost subfolder of my libraries a prop and I think: "damned hell, I used this two years ago on a render... er... what render??"... so really the prop was on my library spending a space... but I´m with Sheridan, you nevcer know where need a prop
Casette.-
I'm in agreement with you. I've never ever seen a more greedy and gullible community then the 'poserworld' Companies like DAZ (that one especially), CP & RDNA thrive on the greed of poser users. If you haven't joined in the latest hype, you just don't count. If we all would just buy and download what we really need, many poser companies would be out of business pretty soon.
I've stopped buying poser stuff. I've even stopped visiting a number of poser sites to prevent I'll be buying more junk I'll never use.
As for free stuff I hardly download any of it, except for items of a few content creators. I've found that 99% of the free stuff isn't up to my standard at all, so I've stopped wasting my time downloading the free stuff. Unless I know that the content creator is creating excellent stuff.
Imagine how much more great projects one could finish in the time you browse through stores, download or buy content, unpack it, look at it, play with it for a time and then decide it's not what you need at all or even forget you've got it. All that time could be used for finishing projects.
Since the addiction is still there with me and it's nice to have some new stuff once in a while, I've become a lifetime member at PoserWorld. That made me realize how much others (again especially DAZ) are ripping me off, by charging outrages prices.
It's time to boycott all of these stores and force them to lower the prices so we can get even more out of our poser addiction!
You hit it right on the head. I thought I was the only one that has never extracted a file of something.....It's a Fever.
You hit it right on the head. I thought I was the only one that has never extracted a file of something.....It's a Fever.
I've never really added up the amount of money I spend on Poser stuff...I have an amount that is safe to spend each month or so....that goes for anything, like going to a movie, buying a pair of pants, etc...I find most of it goes to Poser stuff...that most of which I don't use anyway.
Also the hype gets you...such as Apollo Maximus, a great figure, but then , why do I need another figure, especially when the ones I have look just fine with a space helmet on and covered in clothing...the arm crinkle hardly matters...and then I just post out anything that looks too weird.
I think it depends on what the Poser artist wants to do. If you want to create a lot of images (one or two a day), then you'll probably need to buy more Poser content. If you're like me, though, and are happy just doing one or two images a month, especially if you make some of your content like I do, then you could probably survive without buying or downloading another thing for Poser. I like to model and texture my own objects, so I haven't bought any new content in over six months. I haven't even gotten any free stuff. Don, Judy, Mike, and Vicky serve me well for figures; if I need a new texture or object for the scene, I do it myself so I learn new modeling or texturing techniques. It really all depends on what you want to do.
Hello. My name is FreeBass, & I'm a content junkie.
I can understand the POVs bein' expressed about "too much" (be it paid for or found) content, & I know 1st hand that Dave's 19Gig runtime isn't unique, but there's been this REALLY cool innovation in coputers in the past several years called "Archiving". Like Sheridan, if I spot sumpin' that I *might* need it the future (or a portion of a set), I grab it up. I load it up. I tinker. If I can't see an immediate use, I archive it.
Ting about Runtime folders I've noticed is that they ent 19 Gigs from a clean install. Fer my own part, it took years to get that many goodies collected, & in that time I've also learned how to remove goodies from my Runtime. So my "Main" Runtime (yeah, I have several as well) is a nicely manageable 10 Gigs. LOL
I've also seen the comment "I like to make my own content". This is a good ting, & I also dabble w/ it. Personally I find lookin' @ other content is a bitchin' way to see what "works" & what don't. I'm gonna assume that Anton (for example) did the same while developing his new Apollo figure, as I've heard it has a bunch of cool innovations.
Bring on the content!
BTW; was I the only one who noticed the irony of this post following a glowing review of a $60 Poser addon?
well, that $60 add does save a few bucks... :)
I know...thas why I shelled out fer it 8-)
A longstanding request of mine (since Poser Pro Pack was in beta) was for Poser to come with the following content:
Fully furnished home
Fully furnished office
Sports car, 4-door sedan (and morphs or magnets to tweak design).
The sets would have modular (i.e. movable) walls.
My argument went as follows: give people a program that just comes with naked people and they'll render pictures of naked people. Provide at least a couple of contexts and people will tell stories with them.
Ad professionals are looking for a complete solution so they can do their two housewives in a kitchen toot-sweet.
Microsoft got this one right with the amount of clip art they dumped into Office. Until your user base has to do something really context specific, don't make them hunt for basic, ordinary content.
Poser's corporate masters have been consistently silent on this issue for years. While I applaud their intense focus on render quality and base model quality, they're still not getting it. Imagine the Sims starting up with a grey featureless void.
I'm very choosy about new figures. They screw with your ROI on conforming clothing and textures you've already bought, unless you're the sort to spend time and money transmogrifying figure X's stuff for figure Y.
Yea...I've been trying to stick to more scene type stuff...I bought that big office from PoserProducts...and have now been looking at houses, etc. Got some of ratracer's stuff...then of course stonemason---Stefan is great. Stuff like that definitly kindles the creative juices. I get really sick of seeing 14 instances of a set of clothes for every character in existence...thus Wardrobe Wizard is a truly great asset.
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